I've finished the first draft of CAST IN FURY.
I'm curious, though. For me, when I say I'm finished a novel, what I really mean is I've finished the first draft of the novel that I've been working on. I still have to go through it, line-edit, revise, fact check (and, honestly, it is not an understatement to say I am not very good at this last part ), tighten, clarify, etc. The book is not actually ready to head out the door (or in my case, be thrown out the door in frustration, because at a certain point, moving commas does not help) but to me -- it's finished when I have a complete first draft.
What stage in a book is finished, for you, if you write them?
I'm curious, though. For me, when I say I'm finished a novel, what I really mean is I've finished the first draft of the novel that I've been working on. I still have to go through it, line-edit, revise, fact check (and, honestly, it is not an understatement to say I am not very good at this last part ), tighten, clarify, etc. The book is not actually ready to head out the door (or in my case, be thrown out the door in frustration, because at a certain point, moving commas does not help) but to me -- it's finished when I have a complete first draft.
What stage in a book is finished, for you, if you write them?
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Date: 2007-09-12 07:50 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-09-12 08:00 pm (UTC)Finished with first draft is kind of the biggest deal for me, because I've got it all down, and it is by far the hardest part mentally.
Finished with all revision passes, including editorial, is another stage.
But then the copy edits come, and I might make additional changes (usually reasonably small).
I don't really feel finished with a book until the page proofs have come and gone. Then it is truly out of my hands.
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Date: 2007-09-12 08:26 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-09-12 08:53 pm (UTC)Polished = ready to send to editor
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Date: 2007-09-12 08:54 pm (UTC)Consequently I call it "all written" when it's ready for beta readers. I don't think I'm comfortable with the term "finished" until something is printed and bound.
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Date: 2007-09-12 09:43 pm (UTC)You're not alone!
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Date: 2007-09-12 09:58 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-09-12 10:18 pm (UTC)Granted, now 2 of my finished novels have to be stripped back almost to the outlining stage...so they were finished, but now are unfinished, which could get rather confusing very quickly.
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Date: 2007-09-12 10:40 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-09-12 10:42 pm (UTC)Technically I'm never 'finished finished' but I'd say rewrite/fix 2 or 3 is usually when I get the novel in a somewhat likeable form. After a month of avoiding said fixes, of course.
I think the mechanical part is easier than figuring out the pacing and the specific content, but heaven knows I'm not particularly wonderful at either.
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Date: 2007-09-12 11:07 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-09-12 11:40 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-09-13 01:20 am (UTC)Are you going to be at the store Saturday?
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Date: 2007-09-13 01:50 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-09-13 02:12 am (UTC)The book is not actually ready to head out the door (or in my case, be thrown out the door in frustration, because at a certain point, moving commas does not help)
I never really *finish* anything, either. I just give up after a while and say that it's done if it looks complete. :) This phenomenon is far more obvious in my art than my writing, because none of my novels have made it to the stage of "OK, I give up".
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Date: 2007-09-13 05:44 am (UTC)By the way, you probably won't remember me, but we met at a FilkOntario.
If you like, you can see here what I do.</a (http://www.juhonisch.de)
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Date: 2007-09-15 05:20 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-09-15 03:40 pm (UTC)I'm just waiting to have the finished version in my eager hands. (no pressure (maybe just a wee bit) or anything, lol!)
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Date: 2007-09-24 05:07 pm (UTC)As far as a book being done? First draft is very rough, ugly, incomplete, and in the wrong order. Takes me at least 2 more drafts and coments from readers before it can be called ready. Not done, just ready for the editor to take a pass at it.
Some months later I'll get a revision phone call. Yet another draft, often adding 100 or more pages. Then it's done. Sort of.
But of course there are page proofs to go through later yet.
The book is done when the bound copies are in the store and there is no way I can do one more quick edit.
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Date: 2007-12-02 05:22 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-12-06 12:44 am (UTC)cast in fury
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