An open letter to Trade Publishers
Dec. 6th, 2009 04:46 pmDear Trade Publisher or Small Press publisher:
Please do not print trade paperback large format books with flat glossy covers anymore.
As a bookseller, I watch what people pick up and put down. I listen to their comments on covers and cover art (and blurbs; those are sometimes funny, and yes, I know full well that the authors don't write them).
One thing that I've noticed happening more and more often in the store when people are browsing and chatting in front of the New Release Trade paperback shelf is that a customer will point at a specific book and say:
"Is this self-published?"
or
"Wow, there are a lot of self-published books here."
In fact, none of the books at which they're pointing are self-published.
I finally realized this weekend that the reason they're asking is because of the cover stock used on those specific trade paperbacks. If the trade paperback has a flat, glossy cover, they ignore the art, the type and the cover design. If it's flat gloss, with no foil, no embossing, no textures, they are now assuming that the book is self-published; they won't even pick it up.
I have no idea where this assumption comes from because with very few exceptions, we do not shelve or attempt to sell self-published books; we just don't have the space. But the fact is: more people are now asking if books that are entirely traditionally published are self-published because of the cover stock used.
If the cover has terrible art or terrible type, but is printed with a matte finish without any of the other frills (i.e. no embossing, no foil, no textures), they don't ask the question at all. It doesn't matter what the cover looks like in terms of composition.
At this point, due to the wonders of PoD technology, they're assuming that any cover that is glossy stock is self-published.
I'm certain that not all of our customers make this assumption; I know they don't blink twice about glossy stock on mass market paperbacks. But with the trade/large format paperbacks, there is a growing assumption, and I find it troubling.
The British trades are frequently bound with glossy stock. This week, there were two novels by relatively unknown names -- and the new PYR title by Kristine Kathryn Rusch -- which were pointed out, and which were instantly classified as "self-published" (the latter, I've had four people ask about in the last two weeks).
I know, again, that not everyone makes this assumption. But the fact that more and more people are asking me, specifically, about them implies that more people are thinking this way. And if people are thinking it and asking, I can pretty much count on the fact that people are also thinking about it and not asking.
I realize that there are many self-published writers, some of whom will no doubt read this. I understand that there is a prejudice against self-published books. The assumption that the books are somehow inferior or garbage, however right or wrong, exists in my customer base, and as a retail employee I accept the fact.
So... what I'd like, at this point, is that publishers choosing a trade/large format paperback for their releases choose a matte finish cover stock for everything, because the customers who are not even picking the glossy cover-stock books up are making the subconscious association between cover stock and publishing venue now and I'm not about to put small notes on every single book to the effect of "Yes, I know this is printed with glossy stock but No, it is not self-published."
It would help if some of the self-published authors were more open about the fact that they're self-published, but a number "create" small presses which have "published them" in order to avoid the perceived stigma, and because of those cases, it becomes harder for the consumer to differentiate between small press and self-pub. The easiest way of doing this for those consumers, at the moment, is cover-stock.
Thank you for your attention,
Bookseller in December
Please do not print trade paperback large format books with flat glossy covers anymore.
As a bookseller, I watch what people pick up and put down. I listen to their comments on covers and cover art (and blurbs; those are sometimes funny, and yes, I know full well that the authors don't write them).
One thing that I've noticed happening more and more often in the store when people are browsing and chatting in front of the New Release Trade paperback shelf is that a customer will point at a specific book and say:
"Is this self-published?"
or
"Wow, there are a lot of self-published books here."
In fact, none of the books at which they're pointing are self-published.
I finally realized this weekend that the reason they're asking is because of the cover stock used on those specific trade paperbacks. If the trade paperback has a flat, glossy cover, they ignore the art, the type and the cover design. If it's flat gloss, with no foil, no embossing, no textures, they are now assuming that the book is self-published; they won't even pick it up.
I have no idea where this assumption comes from because with very few exceptions, we do not shelve or attempt to sell self-published books; we just don't have the space. But the fact is: more people are now asking if books that are entirely traditionally published are self-published because of the cover stock used.
If the cover has terrible art or terrible type, but is printed with a matte finish without any of the other frills (i.e. no embossing, no foil, no textures), they don't ask the question at all. It doesn't matter what the cover looks like in terms of composition.
At this point, due to the wonders of PoD technology, they're assuming that any cover that is glossy stock is self-published.
I'm certain that not all of our customers make this assumption; I know they don't blink twice about glossy stock on mass market paperbacks. But with the trade/large format paperbacks, there is a growing assumption, and I find it troubling.
The British trades are frequently bound with glossy stock. This week, there were two novels by relatively unknown names -- and the new PYR title by Kristine Kathryn Rusch -- which were pointed out, and which were instantly classified as "self-published" (the latter, I've had four people ask about in the last two weeks).
I know, again, that not everyone makes this assumption. But the fact that more and more people are asking me, specifically, about them implies that more people are thinking this way. And if people are thinking it and asking, I can pretty much count on the fact that people are also thinking about it and not asking.
I realize that there are many self-published writers, some of whom will no doubt read this. I understand that there is a prejudice against self-published books. The assumption that the books are somehow inferior or garbage, however right or wrong, exists in my customer base, and as a retail employee I accept the fact.
So... what I'd like, at this point, is that publishers choosing a trade/large format paperback for their releases choose a matte finish cover stock for everything, because the customers who are not even picking the glossy cover-stock books up are making the subconscious association between cover stock and publishing venue now and I'm not about to put small notes on every single book to the effect of "Yes, I know this is printed with glossy stock but No, it is not self-published."
It would help if some of the self-published authors were more open about the fact that they're self-published, but a number "create" small presses which have "published them" in order to avoid the perceived stigma, and because of those cases, it becomes harder for the consumer to differentiate between small press and self-pub. The easiest way of doing this for those consumers, at the moment, is cover-stock.
Thank you for your attention,
Bookseller in December
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Date: 2009-12-06 11:15 pm (UTC)I can't think that there are more self-pubbed SF/F books out there than any other type, but maybe there's greater exposure at cons and such. And yes, the trades do tend to have glossy covers.
Maybe it's a case of enough people in the SF/F fandom being burnt by bad self-pubbed titles* (which are often trade paperbacks) and enough of them having glossy covers that you're seeing the start of the inevitable reaction.
(*I know not all self-pubbed titles are bad. But a lot are.)
I think this also shows that readers do notice quality in fiction and do steer away from bad books. (There's the democracy of the marketplace right there.) Sadly, it sounds like a marker being used for "bad book" is now "trade paperback with glossy cover."
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Date: 2009-12-06 11:17 pm (UTC)And you're right. It's due to the book looking like a PoD book, which I tend to have a large bias against, I admit.
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Date: 2009-12-07 01:25 am (UTC)How did that become such a knee jerk association so quickly? I so rarely actually encounter POD books, but I instinctively know that's what one looks like.
(Just went over and thumbed around my copy of Jenna Starborn, which is trade paper with a glossy-ish cover, a trade paperback from Britain (Jaine Fenn's Principles of Angels), and a POD from Anthology Builder. The other qualities are paper weight, "flippiness" of the pages, and the crackability of the spine, but they are secondary to the glossy covers. I can tell Jaine's is not POD because it's slightly more flippy and less stiff in the spine than the POD, but not by much, and I would question it if I didn't know. Jenna Starborn I have no questions about, but maybe it's too old/not glossy enough.)
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Date: 2009-12-07 02:56 am (UTC)I realized it was the formatting--exactly the formatting you describe--that had made me assume the book was self-published. I also realized that I'd bypassed a number of books in the previous 10 minutes on that same unconscious assumption: the formatting instantly convinced me they were self-published, and I shoved them aside. So I went back and looked. Three of the books I'd bypassed were also Poison Pen Press releases. I don't know about the other two. I didn't recognize the publishers' names... so my suspicion lingered that these might be self-published books DISGUISED as books that someone had acquired, paid for, edited, and published.
Laura Resnick
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Date: 2009-12-07 03:39 am (UTC)I've had this reaction myself. I play "spot the self-pubbed novel" in the huckster's room at conventions. (I'm head of production for a publishing company, so it really is a fun game for me...)
The POD tech has improved immensely. There are basically two digital techs competing in the POD world, but the in-line color laser printer now prints on 10pt cover stock and it looks nearly as good as offset printing. Even I have to look closely to tell the difference. (At least I can still do it without putting on my glasses.)
Regular publishers are confusing the issue by doing some short-run reprints digitally (POD tech, but ordering copies into the warehouse rather than literally printing on demand). A book may not be moving the 2000 copies/year that justify an offset printing, but if it's selling 1000 or even 500 (or, in the case of a small press, 20 or 30 copies), publishers have become more inclined to use POD tech and capture that long tail without cluttering up their warehouses.
(Note: Rather than clutter up your comment thread further, I've posted a little tech info about matte finishes over on my blog.)
In a glass-is-half-full kind of way, this phenomenon of readers passing over what they think is self-pubbed is not a bad thing. It means that readers actually desire gatekeepers to sort out the chaff before it gets to the bookstore.
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Date: 2009-12-07 03:53 am (UTC)Me, I tend to assume crappy computer art means the books are possibly self-published & probably crappy. I wish small presses which put out good stuff would *stop using crappy computer generated art.*
(Most of these books are glossy tpbs, of course.)
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Date: 2009-12-07 05:10 am (UTC)It is an irritating assumption, and sad that it's growing, that glossy=private press. It's even more upsetting that private press=automatic literary fail. :/
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Date: 2009-12-07 09:01 am (UTC)We carried several very small press erotica books I considered PoD due to discounting rates (though they fit the order stats of every other book we carried, so they technically weren't). I had them shelved in their own sections due to explicit content. I honestly never had anyone ask about self published books. I'm curious what has changed so much in the last two years.
I know my personal peeve is bad cover art (CGI, blurry, none), or no blurb at all on the jacket.
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Date: 2009-12-07 05:56 pm (UTC)I'm far from the average book consumer though. hmm.
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Date: 2009-12-07 07:32 pm (UTC)Doesn't this mean that the terrorists, err, self-publishers have won?
The "tells" I generally see to distinguish self-published from professional books aren't the glossiness of the cover stock. Poor cover art, and clunky typography and layout are a much greater factor. They're not always "bad", but they're almost always "off".
Those tells aren't always restricted to self-publishers. Some of Baen's books make me cringe, and before them, Meisha Merlin's covers.
If you have a self-publisher with a good eye, you can come up with a cover that looks as good as a professional cover. Will Shetterly just put out MIDNIGHT GIRL on Lulu.com, and I think the cover could stand up against most professional YA covers.
-- Bruce Arthurs
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Date: 2009-12-07 09:02 pm (UTC)One big sign at the front of the store saying "We Do Not Sell Self Published Books" (or similar wording if this isn't OK for some reason) would seem to help dispell the erroneous assumption.
Self publishers will no doubt use the info from your blog posting, now, to be sure to vary the matt, texture, etc. of their covers. C'est la guerre.
Thank you
Date: 2009-12-07 09:56 pm (UTC)I tend to agree
Date: 2009-12-07 11:37 pm (UTC)This being said as a professional retail bookseller, and one who follows enough of the industry to know better. I don't like it, I don't try to do it, but I often do.
I will follow a particular publisher's output because I know they generally publish what I like. But I also know I have the tendency to not even pick a book up from an unfamiliar publisher/author because of that trade glossy cover. I don't think it's intentional, but it's there.
I will even avoid buying such a book that looks like it might be worthwhile because in my mind: glossy cover = poorly manufactured. I'd prefer hardcovers any day, but would buy matte finished trades, over glossy trades, over mass-markets every single time. Again, even if I know better.
I think we are all creatures of the marketing departments to some extent. Just my two cents.