Online friends
Dec. 14th, 2004 10:17 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
msagaraA question that came out of a discussion about on-line friends.
How many of your best friends are online only?
I value the entire online experience; it gets me thinking. It (often) makes me laugh,. I enjoy the kibitzing, and the ideas, that come from an environment in which both like minds and very unlike minds can meet, clash, and discuss. I value the sense of familiarity, the sense of community; you can certainly fit more people on a blog or an LJ board than you can in a room, and time becomes less critical in some ways -- if I'm suffering a bout of insomnia, the information is still there, and I can still respond to it, partaking in the discussion.
Discussions like these kept me sane when I first became a parent, because phone calls were impossible without interruption, and face it, baby screaming in your ear is not something you can ignore for more than about ten seconds, most of which are spent apologizing and getting off the phone.
But.
In a discussion with another online LJ denizen, something that struck me as odd came up: She said that many of her closest friends were people she'd never met or spoken to; that she couldn't actually put a voice to their online names or identities.
This made me pause. None of my best friends are online only. This doesn't mean that I don't value online friendships, but at some point, they cross the real world boundary in some less public way -- they almost have to.
Many of the friendships I value started in online venues (GEnie, for instance, but also in extended email interchanges), but developed over time with use of the phone and in-person meetings. I'm not entirely comfortable with the online-only version of friendship because what we present of ourselves -- both good and bad -- can often be so selective, we can't convey the whole picture. Nor can we derive the whole picture from another's selective information. We each come from different cultural contexts, and the way we use language -- to let off steam, for instance -- or the way we invoke privacy, are bound to be misunderstood by people who are completely reasonable, from their own cultural context. Or even just a different age; I cannot imagine what a conversation between my fifteen year old self and my forty year old self would be like, if it existed at all..
This may be some inherent flaw in the way I socialize. Or it could be my age.
So. Curious.
How many of your best friends are online only?
I value the entire online experience; it gets me thinking. It (often) makes me laugh,. I enjoy the kibitzing, and the ideas, that come from an environment in which both like minds and very unlike minds can meet, clash, and discuss. I value the sense of familiarity, the sense of community; you can certainly fit more people on a blog or an LJ board than you can in a room, and time becomes less critical in some ways -- if I'm suffering a bout of insomnia, the information is still there, and I can still respond to it, partaking in the discussion.
Discussions like these kept me sane when I first became a parent, because phone calls were impossible without interruption, and face it, baby screaming in your ear is not something you can ignore for more than about ten seconds, most of which are spent apologizing and getting off the phone.
But.
In a discussion with another online LJ denizen, something that struck me as odd came up: She said that many of her closest friends were people she'd never met or spoken to; that she couldn't actually put a voice to their online names or identities.
This made me pause. None of my best friends are online only. This doesn't mean that I don't value online friendships, but at some point, they cross the real world boundary in some less public way -- they almost have to.
Many of the friendships I value started in online venues (GEnie, for instance, but also in extended email interchanges), but developed over time with use of the phone and in-person meetings. I'm not entirely comfortable with the online-only version of friendship because what we present of ourselves -- both good and bad -- can often be so selective, we can't convey the whole picture. Nor can we derive the whole picture from another's selective information. We each come from different cultural contexts, and the way we use language -- to let off steam, for instance -- or the way we invoke privacy, are bound to be misunderstood by people who are completely reasonable, from their own cultural context. Or even just a different age; I cannot imagine what a conversation between my fifteen year old self and my forty year old self would be like, if it existed at all..
This may be some inherent flaw in the way I socialize. Or it could be my age.
So. Curious.
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Date: 2004-12-14 06:06 pm (UTC)During college, I developed RL friendships, and lost touch with most of those online people (this will happen when you go to school in the middle of nowhere and have no 'net access for two years).
Those people I knew during my HS years were absolutely my best friends, partly because I literally had no one else. My socialization process changed in college, and so now my definitions are different. I do believe that it's possible to be good friends with someone online-only, given the right circumstances, but I suspect it's always preferable to meet someone in person. Nowadays, it's harder, I think, to be friends online-only because people are more aware of how easy it is to deceive in the online world.
That said, I still communicate with one person from my HS days. At one time, she was one of my best friends. I still consider her a very good friend. I met her once, right before college, and then lost touch for several years, and almost didn't recognize the person I knew when we reconnected. (I'm not sure how much she recognized me, either, to be perfectly honest) But we learned or relearned each other again, and now I simply call her "my oldest friend."
I don't know that meeting her changed our relationship; if I hadn't immediately fallen off the face of the planet, things might have been different, who knows? At this point, I remember very little about that meeting to give me any substance - it was eleven years ago. I don't think that not meeting some of the others made any difference - the associations I had online at that point revolved around very specific topics, and without the shared connections, we often had little in common.
It's a different forum, with different rules. I suspect age does play some part - I am significantly more comfortable with the concept of online relationships than others I know, simply because I started earlier. I suspect that the kids coming up today will, in great part, be comfortable with online-based relationships because the concept is not alien to them, the way it is to people even my own age who are just starting to find their way to the 'net.
Um, that was long and babbly and possibly incoherent. Will stop now.