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[livejournal.com profile] matociquala makes a good point here about her books. The one thing I wanted to talk a bit about is this (although she's dead right about accruing debt, i.e. don't):

The funny thing is, when you go back and read it six months or a year later, you can't tell the difference between the bits you slogged through, cursing every word, and the bits that came out as if Odin himself was feeding you the lines.


There are one or two whole books that I've written in which there is just so much struggle to roll the boulder uphill that I develop a reflexive cringe response to the text itself. All of the parts that I actually like are the parts that were not such bloody-minded struggle, and I am convinced that the book is an abject failure because there were not enough of those parts to support a book. It takes me about two to three years to forget the experience of actually writing the book, so it takes me about that long to be able to read and parse the words that are actually there, as opposed to the words that I'm terrified are there. Which is another way of saying it's hard for me to reread anything I write until I've forgotten the writing of it.

(Yes, this makes revising and editing a big strain, because I am frequently changing words that I hate into, oddly enough, more words that I hate, with no certainty that the changes actually do anything useful. But waiting 2-3 years to revise a book would be a bit problematic.)

But [livejournal.com profile] matociquala is right. When I've forgotten the struggle to put one word in front of the other in a way that approximates a native English speaker, I can't actually tell which words were the ones that I struggled for hours on, and which were the words that came easily and naturally, as if they were an act of grace.

This implies strongly that there isn't, in the end, a difference. And for the people who weren't mired in the writing, this is probably true. Although it can be true in the "these are all good" or in the "these are all dreadful" way; the point is, the words that are a total, fun-sucking slog do not, in fact, stand out from the words that weren't, regardless of how one feels about the book.

The difference while writing is this: the words that come naturally and easily are words that are easier to trust. They do not automatically feel like garbage. They do not automatically feel like they're full of fail. It is easier to find the shiny bits and point at them and feel, somehow, that we've done something good. There are so many little insecurities and struggles with the ever-smarter Internal Editor while writing any book, that anything that somehow makes the words seem decent and worthwhile makes the book easier to write. People who feel that they need the inspiration or they write crap might not, in fact, be writing crap when they are not inspired -- but their perception of it counts.

Because when it's a slog, it is definitely Not Fun.


(Yes, I am in the middle-of-the-book. Why do you ask?)

ETA: This, I realize, should come with the usual disclaimer: This is me, talking about my process, and my finished books. Other people's process will probably differ widely.

Date: 2008-04-01 04:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] msagara.livejournal.com
I've hesitated to post much of arejoinder, because butting heads with somebody on their process vs. your own is pretty useless, but it seems like it's steamrollering everybody.

No, no, you should feel free to post rejoinders. It's not so much butting heads, as coming up with an alternate method that also works -- I'm well aware that process is entirely individual. I would be disinclined to argue, because you're not telling me that it should work for me, but rather, telling me what does or does not work for you. If that makes sense.

I think it's also helpful to have the range of different writer-process viewpoints, because our process does change, and because some people will find different processes more encouraging or helpful.

I've written 30k words in 3 days, but never on a novel. That was pure story-chasing; I love that, but I will burn out on a piece doing it. If it's a short story (well, in this case, novella), I'll do it anyway because I don't need to sustain that fire for longer than the 3 days.

Date: 2008-04-01 05:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nagasvoice.livejournal.com
Ahh, thank you! and yes, I'm all for hearing about alternative methods too.
The last few years, I'm finding myself looping out on long trajectories into other areas, other fandoms or genres or hobbies or Wikipedia research topics that may or may not have a direct bearing. Eventually I am returning with insights from it, working furiously on the Books for awhile, and then shooting out like Pluto again. Learning how to make jewelry and the types of different natural gemstones is not necessarily of direct use for many stories, for instance, but it's interesting in its own right.

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