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[msagara]

Copy this sentence into your livejournal if you're in a heterosexual marriage/relationship (or if you think you might be someday), and you don't want it "protected" by the bigots who think that gay marriage hurts it somehow.

I am of the opinion that if other people living their own lives can easily threaten your marriage, there are issues that need to be worked out that have little, in the end, to do with said other people. I don't really understand -- I truly don't -- why this is such a big issue for people. It's not like having legal gay marriage is somehow going to force you to suddenly switch your sexual preference. Look, on a purely pragmatic level, happy, committed couples are more likely to have a stake in the community in which they live. Happy people usually want other people to be happy. They are just much more pleasant to have as neighbours.

So...do the people who hate this idea so much live in a crabby, enclosed little space in which they're unhappy enough to assume that everyone should suffer?

I know that some people point to children as a reason why gays shouldn't be allowed to marry (they can't, on their own or without intervention, have them). But no one seems to care if a heterosexual couple chooses not to have children, and I fail to see how this is fundamentally different.

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[barbarienne.livejournal.com]

So...do the people who hate this idea so much live in a crabby, enclosed little space in which they're unhappy enough to assume that everyone should suffer?

-->Alas, I think you've hit it right here. I've seen very little from that end of the political spectrum that can be seen as even vaguely positive and happy. It's always fear and anger and impending apocalypse.

Historians will note that it's not dissimilar to past religious social crusades: the perpetrators feel secure in the righteousness of their views, and feel that they are saving souls by saving society. There's a basic belief that the Almighty will condemn the community if it has an "impure" person within it (for varying definitions of "impure" through the ages).

All this palaver about "real" Americans and preserving "real" family values is, at root, a colossally misguided attempt to sort the Righteous from Everyone Else. If people just fall in line, they too can be part of some imagined Utopia; but as long as Heathens exist, they're fucking it up for everyone.

It's crazy. It's the exact thing that happens when people are actively discouraged from self-reflection, from thinking about where their ideas originate.

family values?

[(Anonymous)]

It isn't just sorting the "Righteous " from everybody else- it is a passive aggressive way of punishing those "evil" people who aren't "just like us". It is sorta scary how how these "oblividiots"(intentional sniglet) think everything they think or do is okay because they are "right". this "right" is what some other idiot told them was right! Fanatics of all kind are mentally and emotionally retarded-they refuse to grow up and mature-its like they are stuck at a certain level of development. So of course they won't examine the belief system that they were fed- why, they might have to think for themselves-and, oh no!., they might actually have to look at things they may have done or said-and even worse, they might have to admit they were -gasp- wrong? or at least admit they don't know? I think the basis for much of this is fear of the unknown-not having an answer or ideology handed to them leaves a lot of people at a loss and they would rather stick to the someone telling them what to think than having to think themselves.