Which means the only way to get through to fearful but reachable folks who were bullied round by their churches too much (and they have doubts about it) is by refuting the religious arguments on their own grounds, pointing out that the extremists are not god-fearing but hateful in promoting evil and isolation. The other part of it is showing that it is not morally wrong to allow people of all kinds to make a serious commitment to one another. I'm hoping those rainbow window folks will be able to make some points. California gets a liberal rep, but it's often undeserved. A lot of the nuttiest and furthest right of the wing-nuts find it perfectly comfortable here, and not just in certain enclaves. As in OR or WA, you can often cut the red/blue thing in any given district by whether it's inland or on the coast, urban or rural. Okay, I just deleted a vast rant on Orange County, which runs close to Salt Lake City for conservative, wealthy, intolerant, and large...anyway, this state is full of insecure people who long for somebody who has The Word to tell them what to do in uncertain times. Or any time, really. I think of them as jellyfish who lack an internal organizing principle and look to others for the rules. And guess what? You can make more people like that by insisting on keeping people fearful and isolated as they grow up. What's not to love there? Self-generating organization men, right? Finally, this is not exactly the triumph that the right wing expected to get, either. Daily Kos had some very good points they found buried in the tricky language of the court's opinion. You have to bear with it, which of course regular news media so rarely do. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/5/26/735571/-Read-page-36.-They-just-cut-Prop-8-to-the-bone.
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Date: 2009-05-27 02:51 am (UTC)The other part of it is showing that it is not morally wrong to allow people of all kinds to make a serious commitment to one another. I'm hoping those rainbow window folks will be able to make some points.
California gets a liberal rep, but it's often undeserved. A lot of the nuttiest and furthest right of the wing-nuts find it perfectly comfortable here, and not just in certain enclaves. As in OR or WA, you can often cut the red/blue thing in any given district by whether it's inland or on the coast, urban or rural.
Okay, I just deleted a vast rant on Orange County, which runs close to Salt Lake City for conservative, wealthy, intolerant, and large...anyway, this state is full of insecure people who long for somebody who has The Word to tell them what to do in uncertain times. Or any time, really. I think of them as jellyfish who lack an internal organizing principle and look to others for the rules.
And guess what? You can make more people like that by insisting on keeping people fearful and isolated as they grow up. What's not to love there? Self-generating organization men, right?
Finally, this is not exactly the triumph that the right wing expected to get, either.
Daily Kos had some very good points they found buried in the tricky language of the court's opinion. You have to bear with it, which of course regular news media so rarely do.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/5/26/735571/-Read-page-36.-They-just-cut-Prop-8-to-the-bone.