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Just before I start, and to put this whole bureaucratic mess into perspective, or into what I feel should be perspective, [livejournal.com profile] papersky says some of the most profound -- and moving -- things about high fantasy I've ever read, which makes the whole contract issue seem somehow paltry and mundane in comparison. She says it here: http://www.livejournal.com/users/papersky/194396.html

Tonight's portion of the long contract will be clauses 5, 6, 7 and 8.

Contract rambling again; reader beware )
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Continuing the typing of a long contract from Ballantine/Random House. This is clause 4, and only clause 4, because it's so damn long. There's not much to say here. There are a couple of clauses that were struck out after the initial phone call mentioned a ways down. Usually, this would be done by an agent's assistant and the publisher's legal department, rather than by an agent and editor. If you were doing this yourself, it would be you -- but I'm not sure if you'd be bounced to the publisher's legal department, or if poor HE would be forced to field these and pass them on. They all have to be ironed out, demonstrably, before you get the contracts to sign.
less anecdote in this one; more boring. You know the drill. )
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Okay. I'm offering warning once again: This is very, very boring. It's also an older contract, so it may have changed (although there's often a glacial change for things like this). This is before the days of e-books, and Random House has what many consider a punitive clause for "all rights that might possibly exist in the future" in their contracts these days, and I don't have one of those on hand. I have a DAW contract, but DAW is a bit unusual, and the Random House contract more indicative of what you'll generally see.

And if, at the end of this, you aren't crossing your eyes or skipping over these entries in glassy-eyed, polite boredom, I'll dig up the LUNA contracts for contrast.

Boring contract clauses, last chance to not click here )
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[livejournal.com profile] kchew, known to some of you as Kristen or klc, has started an LJ which is almost entirely about what she's reading. As she reads almost everything -- when her small son will let her -- it's an interesting Journal, especially to those of us who can then at least have a passing acquaintance with some of the things she's writing about.

She's been an acquiring editor for UofT Press (University of Toronto, just in case some of you hail from Texas), and also for the trade publishing house James Lorrimar runs (name of which escapes me, and yes, I'm being lazy), and has done editing work for Jane Siberry (whee!), but she's a touch on the shy side, and almost all of her interests run to books and reading. Her house kind of looks like a library. You know, a library that's packed three books deep on a shelve (ETA which would be like a "shelf" except with the sense that you could never ever have one of them. Okay, no it's a typo. But it's kind of a subconscious typo which indicates that my house, sadly, looks a lot the same), with books on dressers and tables and every possible space that's flat and unoccupied.
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This is actually a question asked in the comment threads at The Whatever, John Scalzi's excellent, although very snarky, blog.

Isn't there a negotiation process with publishers? Big advance, less maneuvering room with rights and such? Royalty percentages? Accounting schedules? Other contract particulars? I truly think there's more to a publishing contract than the cash up front.

And what about a book with a "meh" advance that actually gets decent marketing? Building a career with legs? Looking long term instead of just gimme the money now!

Maybe I'm a naïve git, but it's not so simple. Is it?

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John Scalzi is at it again. His tongue-and-cheek categorization of "real world" deals, a poke at Publishers Lunch (which impressed me in large part because I confess I've read exactly 2 paragraphs of Publishers Lunch; it's eye-glazingly boring, and transmits not a lot of useful information. Well, to be fair, not a lot in the paragraphs that I managed to take in the single time I tried) seems to have caused a bit of annoyance.

http://www.scalzi.com/whatever/archives/001135.html

Scalzi says some of what I've said here, but in more concentrated form, and with his usual dollop of wit & observation.
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It's come to my attention that some people find this Journal a tad on the depressing side. That wasn't my intent. Nor has it been my intent to position myself as an expert of any sort; because of the nature of Journals in general, I've assumed that this is a somewhat personal take on professional things. Because of that -- and face it, because I'm lazy and no one is paying me to write these -- I'm not particularly careful about punctuation and proof-reading; I tend to write what I think and send it up.
about writing )
Anyway, part of tonight's short ramble is about format. Yes, format.
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Segue

Sep. 12th, 2004 01:01 pm
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Okay, this deserves its own whatever-it-is-these-are-called (not comments, not threads?).

[livejournal.com profile] dancinghorse replied to my previous post on agenting, and she raises points that are all valid; I want them to have a wider audience, and I also want to wedge my take between her words, to add to what she said, rather than bury it.

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[livejournal.com profile] devilwrites said You may have posted something about this long before I started reading, so if so, you can just link me to it or whatever, but how essential in the fantasy/sci-fi writing business, IS IT to have an agent?

I'm not sure if I have or not.
More ruminations on agents )
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Unreasonable things that authors expect from their agents:
list and sundry comments )
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Back to word-count or novel length again.

One of the interesting -- and heated -- things I heard frequently on and off the convention floor was in reference to a major genre publisher's decision to go for shorter books. Yes, I know I've beat this drum before, but there was an urgency to much of the discussion that causes me to bring it up again. This wasn't theoretical; this was writers being told to cut their books in half, or to cut them down from the length they were submitted at. Not because the story is padded; not because the length is wrong for the story itself -- but for other reasons.
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I forgot to mention something. Now that I've gotten sleep, there are probably many other things I should have forgotten to mention <wry g>.
Lois McMaster Bujold anecdote )
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I love conventions.

I really do. When I first used to go to them, I found them a little more intimidating, because I didn't know anyone. I knew the names of some of the editors, but I was much less willing to just approach and bother them. But I also had time to spend hours on panels that looked interesting, and in the dealer's room and the art show and at the masquerade and the hugos, etc. I know that some people do still find them intimidating, but that's part of the nature of any large group: when you first enter it, you don't know much. A lot of the people I met in the early years in ones and twos are now people I see regularly, stop, say hello to, chat with (if I'm not running madly to a panel), so it's now a little like coming home. Where home is full of thousands of people.

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Thud.

I think the Noreascon people outdid themselves in terms of programming. This is the politic way of saying that there was so darned much of it that it would have taken me just as long to read the new Stephenson as it did to go through the program book weeping. The weeping is, of course, a direct result of the tantalizing things I didn't get to see. I personally think that, as Terry Pratchett was the guest of honour, they did the L-space maneuver and translated it into programming tracks.

This may get longish, but I'm also fighting the world's worst headache, and have not yet succumbed to con cruddlies, so it may be suprising in its brevity.

Nah.

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Me, that is <g>.

I had a longish agent ramble, but it got eaten, and I still haven't finished packing, so I'll have to reconstitute it in some fashion when I'm back. I'm hoping to meet some of you there, and if I can manage to pay attention, I'll bring back a trip report.
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Today, shelving books at the store, I picked up the CATWOMAN movie novelization, and realized it had been written by Elizabeth Hand. She's done at least three tie-ins that I know of (and possibly more -- listen to the sound of me being too lazy to go to amazon.com and look it up), but I always feel a little shock when I see her name on one. Why? Perception, I think. Her novels have always been treated seriously (and they should be), and her writing has always garnered critical praise in the genre (and sometimes outside of it). Which doesn't mean she doesn't need to eat.
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That said, is anyone in need of a gmail account?
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I've mentioned elsewhere on my user info page that I'm an old GEnie user. I'd now like to explain what that experience meant to me, because it has some bearing on my activities on LJ now.
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Can anyone tell me what a serial adder is? And, if it's what the name implies, what the point of being one is?

Revising

Aug. 27th, 2004 12:25 am
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[livejournal.com profile] domynoe wrote:

You know, I would love a ramble on your revision process the revision process, whatever you want to call it, as this is where I seem to be having the most problems. I've done the "easy stuff" and am now into the nit picky, line by line stuff and it's driving me crazy that it seems to be going so slow. I just feel like I'm not getting a handle on it, and now that I know how to finally come up with w rough draft (meaning, knowing how I need to write to come up with that draft), if anything is going to kill any kind of publication schedule, it's going to be the revisions.

I could do this; I'm even going to try, but. (There's always a but).

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I feel the need to preface this one with a big disclaimer: I'm not an editor, I'm not a publisher, I'm not an agent. These ramblings are my observations, but I observe only what it's in my nature to observe, and while I attempt objectivity, am fully aware that I achieve filtered subjectivity.

Many, many writers would disagree with what I've said in places. I'm not trying to discuss process because, frankly, there are so many excellent writers on LJ who do just that -- but I feel I have to stress the fact that the discussion of a business-eye-view isn't the only thing that's important.

Okay. [livejournal.com profile] yhlee asked a question about series books, which I'm rambling about here.
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